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Out of Andalus

Latinx Muslims of the Americas after 1492

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  • Moriscos in Disguise

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  • Exempted

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  • Passing request

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  • So-called Moors in the Americas

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  • Moriscos and Latinos

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    Your discussion post offers an insightful exploration of the experiences of Moriscos, the concept of taqiyya, and the intersections of Islam with Protestantism and Latino identities. I particularly appreciate the analysis of Maria Ruiz’s self-denunciation and how it connects to the broader theme of self-preservation under oppressive systems. Your interpretation of her actions as strategic, aimed at taking control of the narrative and preempting accusations, is compelling. This perspective aligns with historical examples of marginalized groups navigating hostile environments through calculated actions to survive and protect themselves. However, it also invites questions about how much agency Moriscos like Maria Ruiz truly had in shaping their narratives within such an oppressive system. Could her self-denunciation also reflect the internalized pressures of a system designed to strip individuals of their autonomy and dignity?

    The connection you make between the Moriscos’ experience and the Shi‘i Islamic concept of taqiyya is particularly insightful. Highlighting taqiyya as a survival mechanism during Imam Jafar as-Sadiq’s time and its parallel in the lives of Moriscos brings to light the enduring theme of religious dissimulation as a response to persecution. It’s worth considering how this concept, while providing a means of survival, also shaped the identities of those who practiced it. For example, did living dual lives under taqiyya complicate or enrich their cultural and religious identities, particularly in contexts where assimilation was both enforced and resisted?

    Your analysis of Islamic iconoclasm and its parallels with Protestant beliefs is another fascinating aspect of Cook’s discussion. The association of iconoclasm with disloyalty to Catholicism illustrates how cultural and religious practices were politicized to enforce conformity and justify exclusion. This raises broader questions about how shared practices across religious traditions, such as iconoclasm, can become markers of division rather than unity under certain socio-political conditions.

    Moving into the more recent dynamics involving Latino Muslims, your discussion of the Nation of Islam (NOI) and organizations like the Latino American Dawah Organization (LADO) highlights important shifts in solidarity and inclusivity. The story of Manuel 2X and the appeal of the NOI’s social improvement programs for Latinos reveals how religious movements address not only spiritual needs but also systemic inequalities. It’s intriguing to consider how this initial solidarity between Latinos and African Americans in the NOI evolved with the “Sunnification” of the movement. This transformation, moving from racial exclusivity to broader inclusivity, reflects the dynamic nature of religious and social movements and their ability to adapt to changing contexts.

    One original point to consider is how these shifts in solidarity and inclusivity within religious movements like the NOI and LADO could serve as models for broader interfaith and intercultural collaboration. The transition toward inclusivity in the NOI, for example, underscores the potential for religious communities to transcend racial and ethnic divides in addressing systemic inequalities. Another point is the role of shared struggles, such as those faced by Moriscos and modern Latino Muslims, in fostering solidarity. These historical and contemporary examples remind us that survival under oppression often necessitates both strategic individual actions, like Maria Ruiz’s self-denunciation, and collective resistance, such as the work of LADO and PIEDAD.

    Your discussion excellently bridges historical and contemporary contexts, illustrating how themes of self-preservation, solidarity, and inclusivity resonate across time. It invites deeper reflection on the ways marginalized groups navigate and challenge systems of oppression, using both individual agency and collective action.

  • Relation between Moors and Latino Muslims

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  • Latina/os Muslim community overtime

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  • public spheres and the promise of divine justice

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  • Cook ands Ahmed on the Melancholia of Suppression

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  • Latina/o Muslims

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  • Islam: Scientology Edition

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  • The Other(s) of Spanish America

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  • The surveillance of Islam

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  • Morisco/as dangerous migration to new Spain

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  • When ''looking Muslim'' becomes a crime

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    Thank you @pierre-augustin_habrih ! You are right, the situation of Muslims in France is also a great example of it.

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  • Repression/Ralliement

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    Another good example of disidentification. Thanks, @eva_rajzman.